Wasn't this MUD upgrade supposed to increase speed ? - Page 2

highlandcruzer · 04-06-08, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romer

I get the background and the top section super fast and then the rest of the page takes a long time to load. In the bottom left I get the message "Done - with errors on page" Message in box says error is null or not an object

Ditto, at the moment.

Romer · 04-06-08, 12:15 PM

Testing, not getting the same problem with firefox. In fact it is super fast.

I am getting the same error with both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Explorer

Something is choking explorer

flintknapper · 04-06-08, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highlandcruzer

Ditto, at the moment.

Same thing here. Page doesn't download for several minutes.

Probably took me 5-6 minutes just to post this.

Not good, I'm having IH8MUD withdrawal symptoms.

Hants · 04-06-08, 12:31 PM

I've been receiving broken pages (top of page, then garbled HTML) off and on yesterday and this morning. Refresh/reload generally fixes it.

This thread loaded fine, except the footer (below the "Posting Rules" box) is garbled HTML.

NaterGator · 04-06-08, 12:33 PM

Since I'm on linux I can't test IE, but I did reverse engineer a bit of the obfuscated javascript that was causing the problem (shoppingads' javascript). Whatever shoppingads does it's not getting it's keywords set properly (shoppingads_ad_kw) and it is making a call to a function called scrubSXX() with a null parameter. This is causing javascript to crash (especially on IE) and is probably causing most of the headache. I'm still trying to figure out where in the page the shoppingads code is loaded (it's not directly in the source and must be loaded somewhere by javascript into the DOM)

The crashing JS means that IE will panic and not load the page well at all. It may also explain garbled output becaue vB relies heavily on JS to work in order to setup a bunch of advanced formatting and overall DOM setup.

MarcoPolo · 04-06-08, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romer

I get the background and the top section super fast and then the rest of the page takes a long time to load. In the bottom left I get the message "Done - with errors on page" Message in box says error is null or not an object

x2

-Spike- · 04-06-08, 12:59 PM

Very slow, with IE and a very fast connection. Oddly, the Club forums come up normally (fast), but any link to regular 'Mud areas takes 30 seconds or so to load.

-Spike

NaterGator · 04-06-08, 01:01 PM

Ah ha. I bet I know why. IE has a nasty tendency to match the end of a multiline html comment using non-greedy regular expressions. This is a flaw. Yield build was turned off with multiline comments. See:

Code:

<!-- Yieldbuild OFF

<!-- GOOGLE AdSense / Yieldbuild -->
<center>
<!-- YB: nav (728x15) -->
<script type="text/javascript"><!--
yieldbuild_client = 779;
yieldbuild_layout = "thread___universal_zones";
yieldbuild_loc = "nav";
yieldbuild_options = {};
//--></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://yieldbuild.com/s_ad.js"></script>


</center>

-->

IE should ignore everything up to the green --> tag, but instead it only seems to ignore to the red --> tag.

I'm going to make a mirror of the page and I need an IE user to click it and tell me if it's still slow.

-Spike- · 04-06-08, 01:04 PM

I thought that might narrow it down a bit. So, now what?

-Spike

04-06-08, 12:15 PM	#32
Romer Kneel for the Shaman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Englewood, Colorado TLCA# 13968 Posts: 7,618	Testing, not getting the same problem with firefox. In fact it is super fast. I am getting the same error with both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Explorer Something is choking explorer __________________ Ken Romer ~ Friend of Shaman Keeper of the FAQ, Defender of Newbies, and Slayer of Tards Commander Rising Sun 4WD Club - KD0AIF 97 LX450, Supercharged, Locked, and lots of other stuff ROTW 96 LX450 - ROD's 06 4Runner - Wife's 99 4Runner - daughterofromer's 03 BMW Z4 Roadster

04-06-08, 12:31 PM	#34
Hants Dumbass rookie dough-head Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Behind the bar TLCA# 13790 Posts: 383	I've been receiving broken pages (top of page, then garbled HTML) off and on yesterday and this morning. Refresh/reload generally fixes it. This thread loaded fine, except the footer (below the "Posting Rules" box) is garbled HTML. __________________ 1997 LX450, 132K, Lockers, LEDs, Nak-o-matic mic holder, CDL w/ Pin 7, 285/75R16 BFG AT, Tool Sleeve, Slee armor, Slee speedo gear, OME 2.5" Heavy, Prophylactic HG, Line-X in place of LX trim KD0CXL "You don't get to vote on the way it is... you already did!" But you do get to vote on the way it will be. "... but you have to compare it to the current political process where idiots elect liars to transfer wealth to crooks." -- Scott Adams "Damn you, Hants White!" -- Dan-The-Man

04-06-08, 12:33 PM	#35
NaterGator Dive on in... Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tampa/Gainesville, FL Posts: 1,170	Since I'm on linux I can't test IE, but I did reverse engineer a bit of the obfuscated javascript that was causing the problem (shoppingads' javascript). Whatever shoppingads does it's not getting it's keywords set properly (shoppingads_ad_kw) and it is making a call to a function called scrubSXX() with a null parameter. This is causing javascript to crash (especially on IE) and is probably causing most of the headache. I'm still trying to figure out where in the page the shoppingads code is loaded (it's not directly in the source and must be loaded somewhere by javascript into the DOM) The crashing JS means that IE will panic and not load the page well at all. It may also explain garbled output becaue vB relies heavily on JS to work in order to setup a bunch of advanced formatting and overall DOM setup. __________________ '96 LX450, 33" Revos, OME lifted, etc, etc "Success: To laugh often and much, to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children, to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends, to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others, to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded!"

04-06-08, 12:59 PM	#37
-Spike- Sponsored by Bull Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,902	Very slow, with IE and a very fast connection. Oddly, the Club forums come up normally (fast), but any link to regular 'Mud areas takes 30 seconds or so to load. -Spike __________________ His 1994 TLC 'White Elephant' +6"/35" Locked and loaded. Hers '95 TLC Bare bones. "I don't understand this business of illegal aliens giving birth to American citizens. If your cat has kittens in the oven, would you call them biscuits?" -Unknown

04-06-08, 01:01 PM	#38
NaterGator Dive on in... Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tampa/Gainesville, FL Posts: 1,170	Ah ha. I bet I know why. IE has a nasty tendency to match the end of a multiline html comment using non-greedy regular expressions. This is a flaw. Yield build was turned off with multiline comments. See: Code: <!-- Yieldbuild OFF <!-- GOOGLE AdSense / Yieldbuild --> <center> <!-- YB: nav (728x15) --> <script type="text/javascript"><!-- yieldbuild_client = 779; yieldbuild_layout = "thread___universal_zones"; yieldbuild_loc = "nav"; yieldbuild_options = {}; //--></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="http://yieldbuild.com/s_ad.js"></script> </center> --> IE should ignore everything up to the green --> tag, but instead it only seems to ignore to the red --> tag. I'm going to make a mirror of the page and I need an IE user to click it and tell me if it's still slow. __________________ '96 LX450, 33" Revos, OME lifted, etc, etc "Success: To laugh often and much, to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children, to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends, to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others, to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded!"

04-06-08, 01:04 PM	#39
-Spike- Sponsored by Bull Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,902	I thought that might narrow it down a bit. So, now what? -Spike __________________ His 1994 TLC 'White Elephant' +6"/35" Locked and loaded. Hers '95 TLC Bare bones. "I don't understand this business of illegal aliens giving birth to American citizens. If your cat has kittens in the oven, would you call them biscuits?" -Unknown

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